is this another beef comparison post? this is another beef comparison post oops

@softpunkbucky and I are comparing beefs again help

he has a pretty little wasp waist in cap2 but in cap3 he’s just. SOLID

This is a great comparison shot because you can see that in the first one, the curve of his waist follows the width of the horizontal straps, and in the second one, there is clearly extra inches filled out on either side 💦💦


Am I the only one whose seeing how in cwtws the horizontal straps are straight up and down, but in CACW they’re pulled to the left, as if they tried to squeeze him into his old costume, but it just doesn’t fit?

Also bonus if you compare the width of the chest strap, and also in Cap3 more of the metal arm is visible near the shoulder/arm pit. HIM BIG.

Bonus x2:

I was trying to find some decent shots of him in the Winter Soldier outfit in Cap3 for a better comparison but they’re actually few and far between.

Someone get some big HD beef stat

See, this could just be me being Captain Angstbucket, and the whole thing is probably a coincidence (with seb bulking up for the role), but 1991 winter soldier is beefy. He’s solid. 

2014 winter soldier is strong, yeah, he’s got abs. But he’s also pretty slender too

Which says to me that the Russians took care of him physically (not mentally obviously, let’s not even go there). But in the care of Alexander Pierce? The weight is dropping off him

Which makes me wonder, at what point Pierce stop finding value in the winter soldier? This man was a ghost, a myth, and Pierce sends him repeatedly out in broad daylight, into crowded streets full of witnesses.

When did the winter soldier become a blunt instrument to him, rather than a fine blade? When was decided that he would get the minimum requirements to stay functional? How long was he losing all that muscle, all that weight before being sent on suicide missions?

Was Pierce a little disappointed each time he came back?

I gotta re-re-reblog this for the meta because yesssss, I also follow that headcanon; the Russian’s treated TWS better, though he was still a thing to them.

Jumps on the angst train cos that’s a good point about Pierce, I think it kind of goes in hand with the idea that the Russian branch of Hydra never gave Pierce/American Hydra the proper “TWS 101″, they probably told them the basics but never how to properly control him. Hence all the “wipe and start over”s. And then like, since TWS wasn’t working properly he became that blunt instrument in Pierce’s eyes.

Though my headcanon about his nutrition differs; I think they do give him the required nutrients, but because he doesn’t have proper food (hydra making sure they know what goes into him, he’s a thing he doesnt need it etc) and his increased metabolism he just burns through it like no tomorrow. It’s an odd irony that what they think is the best for him really isnt.

Adding a boxcar to the angst train with a mention of how much more awful it makes Pierce offering him that milk if Pierce didn’t give a rat’s ass about the Asset’s nutrition.

Ya’ll somehow managed to pack thirst, angst, and meta into one Bulky Barnes post, and I’m proud of everyone.

someone please put a hat and mitten on that boy he is on a frozen mountain

(also I assumed Project Insight would make TWS obsolete so…….)

I will also point out another reason for the body change that might be science related, and it’s a bit of a long one, but one reason might have to be because Bucky might have been in and out of cryo more frequently while under Pierce’s control.

Why is that? It’s actually something found in animals who hibernate.

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While I was originally intending to (finally) get around to doing meta on Alexander Pierce and the way they use lighting and framing, I was taking screenshots, and noticed something about this scene that I had never noticed before.

This whole scene is a masterclass in mirroring. Usually, this is when one person subconsciously mimics another person’s gestures, expressions, and movements. It’s often so natural, a picking up of non-verbal cues, that both the person mirroring and the subject don’t even notice. Psychologically speaking, it gives the impression of closeness and similarity, and encourages a stronger connection between two people.

In this case, Alexander Pierce is doing it deliberately. This whole scene is about him trying to gauge whether Steve trusts him. And quite frankly, I find it fascinating because not only does Pierce have a similar look to Steve, but he’s closer to his age than anyone else Steve has worked with.

But anyway, back to the scene. From the very first moment of their interaction, Pierce is testing him:

“It’s an honour.”
“The honour’s mine, Captain. My father served with the hundred and first.”

He’s verbally laying down the ground work to suggest they are similar, equals, coming from the same background. This is a foundation he needs to build a strong case against Fury. If he can ensure Steve is on his side, then it will make things a lot easier.

He starts on what seems like a friendly note, telling Steve old, little-known stories about Fury to gain his trust. This is where he starts the physical mirroring, matching Steve’s position on the seat: we’re friends here. Look at us, talking like friends.

And this is the point where he thinks he is gaining Steve’s confidence, so he moves onto stage two: planting seeds of doubt about Fury. First, he talks about the bugging, then about Batroc, and the source of the funding for Batroc’s mission. All the while, he keeps casually imitating Steve’s body language: turning when Steve does, folding his hands in front of him, resting his arms on his knees. It’s casually done, but very deliberate.

It’s only when Steve shows his faith in Fury that Pierce withdraws to regroup. And here’s the interesting thing: this is the one moment when Steve mimics Pierce by getting up, which shows that he is responding to Pierce’s cues and words, by keeping them on the same level (physically, at least).

I also love the fact that Pierce very deliberately goes and places himself by the window, framing himself in light. The lighting in this moment (and really, in any scene when Pierce is still acting as a benevolent force) could not be more apt. He’s casting himself as the illuminated leader.

He has also returned to the point of Nick being an ally, a similar person to him. He has realised that Steve will not accept Nick as a traitor, so now he intends to play the loyal-friend card and try and get information out of Steve that way. And his stance by the window, leaning against the glass, the world-weary expression, the “I know what it’s like” – it’s all carefully targeted. He’s making a point that he and Nick are similar in mentality and outlook, encouraging Steve to believe that Nick would want him to know everything.

When he turns back to Steve and sees Steve in his military stance, he mirrors him once more, hands to his waist. This remains the case for the rest of their confrontation, until Steve turns to leave. I’d never noticed this before, but the fact he matches Steve’s stance when he’s talking about being angry about losing someone important to him? Jebus on a cupcake, he is pretty much hitting Steve’s big red NOPE button.

He knows about Bucky (of course he does. He keeps him in a fridge downtown) and no doubt knows about all Steve’s other dead friends. He’s trying to make Steve empathise with him and see the similarities between them by bringing up a lost friend, and he does it all while imitating Steve’s body language like the creepy bastard he is. I am like you, Captain. We are the same. We have both suffered a loss and we are both angry about it. We can help each other.

And this is the trouble with Pierce: he sees the Captain America everyone else sees, the Cap from the museum exhibit. Steve might not have the capacity to be a spy, but he’s not stupid, and he can tell when he’s being played, especially the way Pierce has flip-flopped how he’s describing Nick.

That was Pierce’s mistake the whole time – he  didn’t see that Steve Rogers was the kind of man who would disobey orders and storm a HYDRA base in the same way Nick Fury would disobey orders and rescue a group of hostages in Bogota.

Steve’s “he told me not to trust anyone” is the biggest “f*ck you and all you stand for” possible in the circumstances.

I am forever in awe of the nuance and complexity in the winter soldier, and stand by the conviction that is not a superhero film, it’s an espionage thriller that just so happens to have superheros in it

Can we talk about the fact that Alexander Pierce more than likely grew up with stories about Cap? And more importantly heard stories about Bucky. More than likely he was everywhere. Bucky Barnes and autobiographies, television shows, and then….he controls Bucky Barnes and doesn’t even think of him as a person.






Because ‘Nam is what changes everything.

Because Alex Pierce grew up on the stories of Captain America and the Howling Commandos. He grew up hearing about the friendship between Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes, their heroism, their sacrifice to their country for the greater good.

He joins up for the Army at 18. He’s in Special Forces at 19. He’s in Vietnam in ‘68. He’s in and out for the next 2 years.  He’s there to protect democracy. Freedom. Honor.

It bothers him the first time he shoots an unarmed man. A kid, really. But the village is hiding rebels and an example had to be made. It quits bothering him after a while.

His Captain tells him to not count prisoners until they land back at base. Alex doesn’t understand why.

He does by the time they touch down.

They burn the jungle down around them to find the enemy. They tear down the world and turn it to ash.

He joined up to become a hero. And all he found was chaos.

He comes home disillusioned and bitter and so, so angry, at the lies he was fed, the fairy tales he believed.

Captain America. He was never a hero. He was just a pawn. A shiny distraction the higher ups used to entertain the crowds at home with feats of strength and white-washed newsreels. A trick to get young men to volunteer themselves to die in a jungle with their guts in their hands, with their legs blown off, all for nothing.

It was all a lie.

People will never choose the right thing. They will only choose what will benefit them. Choice is nothing but a path to chaos.

He’s home a month when a small man with a German accent {Swiss, actually, he says} approaches him with a job offer.

The world has gone mad, Mr. Pierce.

Would you like to help me rebuild it?

HEY so I have a question you may or may not be able to answer. Thanks to that PAINFUL CONDITIONING GIFSET I’m starting to figure out that part of Dreams(Where pierce starts being bucky’s handler). Do we know how old Pierce is in Catws? OR even more helpfully how old he would be during the cold war era? HELP IM FEELING TOO MANY FEELS FOR RESEARCH


{haha if you really want to hate everything i can give you a rundown on operant conditioning that will make you want to die} I am assuming that Pierce is just a few years older than Nick, and  in Zola’s speech Nick’s file has his age around 61-62. SO i’m guesstimating Pierce around 66? 67? Redford is 77 {speaking of OH MY GOD throw his name into Google and look at the first picture that comes up HE LOOKS LIKE STEVE I AM SO WRECKED}.  So I thinks TWS is set in 2O13?? which puts Pierce’s birth year as early as 1946, 1947. He literally grew up in the golden age of the Captain America hero-worship I am dying.  

So Bogota was in ‘81? He would have been 34. Zola died in ‘72, Pierce would have been ……26.


which means he looked like this:





fuck. everything.