Many people think that Bucky went to the museum to learn about himself. That is wrong. He went there to learn about Cap. That was Captain America museum. Not Bucky’s/winter soldier museum.
he just happened to find out about himself while he was there. he wanted to find out who the man on the bridge was & why he knew him, little did he realize he’d find out he knew him
is this another beef comparison post? this is another beef comparison post oops
@softpunkbucky and I are comparing beefs again help
he has a pretty little wasp waist in cap2 but in cap3 he’s just. SOLID
This is a great comparison shot because you can see that in the first one, the curve of his waist follows the width of the horizontal straps, and in the second one, there is clearly extra inches filled out on either side 💦💦
STOP THE PRESSES
Am I the only one whose seeing how in cwtws the horizontal straps are straight up and down, but in CACW they’re pulled to the left, as if they tried to squeeze him into his old costume, but it just doesn’t fit?
Also bonus if you compare the width of the chest strap, and also in Cap3 more of the metal arm is visible near the shoulder/arm pit. HIM BIG.
I was trying to find some decent shots of him in the Winter Soldier outfit in Cap3 for a better comparison but they’re actually few and far between.
Someone get some big HD beef stat
See, this could just be me being Captain Angstbucket, and the whole thing is probably a coincidence (with seb bulking up for the role), but 1991 winter soldier is beefy. He’s solid.
2014 winter soldier is strong, yeah, he’s got abs. But he’s also pretty slender too
Which says to me that the Russians took care of him physically (not mentally obviously, let’s not even go there). But in the care of Alexander Pierce? The weight is dropping off him
Which makes me wonder, at what point Pierce stop finding value in the winter soldier? This man was a ghost, a myth, and Pierce sends him repeatedly out in broad daylight, into crowded streets full of witnesses.
When did the winter soldier become a blunt instrument to him, rather than a fine blade? When was decided that he would get the minimum requirements to stay functional? How long was he losing all that muscle, all that weight before being sent on suicide missions?
Was Pierce a little disappointed each time he came back?
I gotta re-re-reblog this for the meta because yesssss, I also follow that headcanon; the Russian’s treated TWS better, though he was still a thing to them.
Jumps on the angst train cos that’s a good point about Pierce, I think it kind of goes in hand with the idea that the Russian branch of Hydra never gave Pierce/American Hydra the proper “TWS 101″, they probably told them the basics but never how to properly control him. Hence all the “wipe and start over”s. And then like, since TWS wasn’t working properly he became that blunt instrument in Pierce’s eyes.
Though my headcanon about his nutrition differs; I think they do give him the required nutrients, but because he doesn’t have proper food (hydra making sure they know what goes into him, he’s a thing he doesnt need it etc) and his increased metabolism he just burns through it like no tomorrow. It’s an odd irony that what they think is the best for him really isnt.
Adding a boxcar to the angst train with a mention of how much more awful it makes Pierce offering him that milk if Pierce didn’t give a rat’s ass about the Asset’s nutrition.
Ya’ll somehow managed to pack thirst, angst, and meta into one Bulky Barnes post, and I’m proud of everyone.
someone please put a hat and mitten on that boy he is on a frozen mountain
(also I assumed Project Insight would make TWS obsolete so…….)
I will also point out another reason for the body change that might be science related, and it’s a bit of a long one, but one reason might have to be because Bucky might have been in and out of cryo more frequently while under Pierce’s control.
Why is that? It’s actually something found in animals who hibernate.
Looks like DC finally got tired of people saying that Dick Grayson was too angry in Titans, and they wrote a whole article breaking down both Dick Grayson’s history and why Dick’s personality is more complex than just a happy-go-lucky, guy.
You can read the whole article here titled “Robin’s rage is nothing new” which is a pretty good read that goes over the various developments in Dick’s personality and presence in comics over the years. It’d recommend giving it a go, but anyways, here’s a quick overview!
- During the Golden age, Dick/Robin was originally created to 1) allow Batman to have someone to talk to (because writers at the time were still figuring out the medium, and they needed a secondary character for Batman to be able to talk about parts of cases to aloud), and 2) he was introduced as a kid to bring in younger readers
- It was around the time of the campy/silly Batman ‘66, with Burt Ward portraying Robin, that he began to be a bit of a lighter presence in comics also. However,
- right before Crisis on Infinite Earths, Dick dropped the campy routine, and became a more grounded persona. He had a falling out with Batman after he was fired and replaced by Jason Todd, and over this period he was quite angry in general.
- Dick of course dosn’t stay angry for long, and he repairs his relationship with Batman after Jason dies/Tim becomes Robin, but the article really sums up he connection between his anger and what drives him to be the more light-hearted Nightwing that we know with this quote:
- “One of the biggest foundational elements of his modern personality was a constant tug-of-war between the optimism he wanted to represent and the bleak pragmatism Batman had instilled in him growing up.”
- It also goes on to talk about Dick’s time in The Outsiders and a couple of other times when he had to completely cut himself off from others and gone lone-wolf.
But basically, the point of this post is that if you’re wondering why the Dick Grayson/Robin of the tv series isn’t quite the person you’re familiar with yet, it’s not because Robin is written out of character, it’s because he’s in a transitional period marking his development into a more optimistic one.
Wait, is this…? I had never noticed this
realisation of Steve not needing his help anymore
was this really necessary
It’s also Bucky being more than a little upset that they turned his gentle, harmless friend—who Bucky wanted to PROTECT from the horrors of war—into a fighting machine.
was that really necessary
it’s also Bucky realizing that he can no longer protect his best friend no matter how hard he tries. he’s utterly helpless now, even after the war is over. they’ll always be wanting steve to fight this or that, and bucky won’t be able to do a darn thing to protect him.
It’s also Bucky taking the 5 seconds he has of Steve not paying attention to him so he can allow himself to process all these emotions without worrying Steve. If you watch Bucky through the movies, you’ll notice he always makes sure to look like he’s 100% fine if other people are looking at him. Fighting with Steve, but smiling at their dates. Recently tortured, but walking confidently by Steve’s side. Basically a mess, but all “Let’s hear it for Captain America!” It’s a pattern, really. Even in the flashback in CATWS, you can see he looks a lot less confident when Steve isn’t looking at him than when Steve is.
Also, Seb has mentioned that researching WW2, what left the deepest impression was how quickly everybody dies. You get attached to someone only to watch their heads being blown up in front of you the next day. I’m sure this influenced how he chose to act this scene. Because you can bet by the time this scene takes place, Bucky has seen many people – hell, maybe even friends – die, and recently, he’s had to see his whole unit be killed or captured by HYDRA. This certainly plays a role here. It’s not just a general sense of “I can’t protect Steve anymore,” it’s more like “I don’t know if Steve will live till next week.” It’s very real, very immediate. It’s a concrete prediction more than a vague fear. And if Steve’s survives, there’s still the fact Bucky knows what’s like to be changed by war, and Steve will be changed by it, which Bucky certainly hates. Either way, he loses the Steve he knew, even more than he’s already lost, with the whole “Steve Rogers is suddenly a super soldier” deal.
I’d say this scene is wartime Bucky in a nutshell. He handles the entire crowd and this whole Captain America propaganda thing without hesitation, he smiles at Steve and makes sure Steve enjoys the moment instead of pulling some “I did my duty” bullshit, and only then he allows himself to be overwhelmed by the fear that comes with being able to think 48923740 worst case scenarios in two seconds. If we can trust interviews with cast and crew, this eventually becomes his role in the war, basically – he thinks fast and does his job protecting Captain America and the missions, he takes care of Steve on a personal level by shielding him from the worst of the war as much as he can, and only then, if there’s time and Steve isn’t looking, he thinks about how the war is affecting him.
But anyway, overall, this scene is about overwhelming loss of everything Bucky knows, as well as an attempt to hide this as well as he can. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that in the 4th and 5th gifs, Seb looks a lot like comics!Bucky does when he says goodbye to his younger sister, thinking he’ll never see her again and almost breaking down in tears, but unwilling to show her he’s scared. For your reference:
WAS ANY OF THIS REALLY NECESSARY
Excellent question, especially considering Steve quite easily kills people using the shield as a blunt weapon. How come he doesn’t do the accidentally-slammed-my-fingers-in-the-desk-drawer dance every time he catches his shield on the rebound?
1. Bone conditioning.
Martial artists use a technique called bone conditioning to strengthen high-impact areas (hands, elbows, knees, shins, feet) and prevent injuries during fights. All bones consist of a light-weight mesh of spongy bone tissue surrounded by a shell of compact bone tissue:
By applying various stresses to the bones (doing knuckle or fingertip push-ups, hitting hard surfaces repeatedly, etc.), martial artists cause microfractures in the spongy bone tissue which heal up as compact bone, making their bones stronger and less prone to compression fractures. Similarly, catching the shield probably delivers an impact hard enough to cause microfractures in Steve’s hand and finger bones (regular people would break their hand trying to catch it!); over time, he would build up additional compact bone tissue in his hands to aid in handling the shield and avoid more serious fractures.
The first time we see Steve using the shield in Captain America: The First Avenger, he’s not throwing it but holding it in front of him defensively like a regular shield and using a pistol as his primary weapon:
The next time, he’s switched to using the shield offensively as a blunt weapon but still doesn’t throw/catch it:
It’s not until the middle part of the Howling Commandos montage that we see Steve use his signature shield-throw-and-catch – he probably spent the intervening time practising how to wield the shield, and while doing so also conditioned his hand bones.
(Incidentally, I’ve read a number of fics mentioning Bucky’s gun calluses – mostly on his right index finger from the trigger, occasionally also on his shoulder from the rifle stock – but I’ve never read a fic mentioning Steve’s calluses, which is a crying shame. Even with his serum-fuelled healing factor, I’m sure he must have them in the palms of his hands and across the inside of his fingers from catching the shield, and maybe across his forearms from the straps or across his back from carrying the shield. I’m a sucker for details like that.)
2. Technique (*).
Secondly, it seems Steve also uses different techniques for catching his shield to avoid taking the brunt of hard impacts, depending on the shield’s forward momentum as it rebounds towards him (**):
2.1 Soft rebound (hitting flesh):
When Steve catches the shield after a soft rebound, such as when it rebounds directly off of someone’s body, he plucks it out of the air by letting it hit his palm straight on:
The low velocity (evidenced by the wobbling) indicates the shield has a reduced momentum on the return, allowing Steve to comfortably catch it even though the flight vector means Steve’s hand is taking the full force of the impact. Notice that his bent arm and bent knees (crouching slightly) at the moment of impact further serve as shock absorbers, reducing the stress on the rest of his body.
2.2 Semi-soft rebound (hitting bone/body armour):
In Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s opening sequence, we see Steve throwing the shield at an opponent in such a way that it rebounds off the man’s body (likely hitting either bone or body armour, as we saw in the previous example that the shield loses too much of its kinetic energy to rebound a second time when hitting flesh) and ricochets off a steel bulkhead before returning to Steve at a much higher velocity than in the example above:
Since the shield is travelling at a higher speed than in the previous example, it has an increased momentum (momentum = speed x mass), meaning it’ll hit Steve’s hand much harder (pressure = momentum/area/time).
However, Steve doesn’t catch the shield straight on this time, but grabs it sideways by the rim rather than letting it slam into the palm of his hand. This 1) reduces the shield’s force by applying a secondary force pulling to the side and back (since force vectors are accumulative), and 2) extends the amount of time it takes for Steve’s hand to absorb the momentum, making the shield exert a smaller pressure on his hand on impact.
2.3 Hard rebound (hitting steel/concrete):
Finally, when rebounding the shield directly off of hard, unyielding surfaces such as steel or concrete which don’t absorb much of the initial kinetic energy–
– it looks as if Steve avoids touching the rim of the shield at all, and instead reaches up underneath the shield to catch it by the leather straps:
The straps probably have enough give in them to reduce the shield’s momentum as they’re pulled, again extending the time it takes for Steve’s hand to absorb it, with the additional benefit that Steve avoids taking a direct hit from the thin vibranium edge (a small area = higher pressure); instead, the shield exerts its force through the thick straps, thereby reducing the potentially bone-breaking compressive strain on Steve’s hand bones.
In conclusion, depending on how much momentum the shield has, Steve has different ways of catching it to avoid breaking his hands.
Of course, that said, it’s fun to note how the Winter Soldier has absolutely zero shield-catching technique and just catches it straight on, stiff-bodied, outstretched arm and all (because he’s just that badass):
Considering how Steve is pushed backwards across the roof from the force of the return throw, I assume the Winter Soldier is bracing his foot against the brick parapet; otherwise, he’d probably have been catapulted clear off the roof by the shield’s momentum. 😉
(*) Please note that I don’t know if Steve’s shield-catching techniques were intended by the directors or (more likely) coincidental and I’m just reading too much into the film (I like to, though, it’s fun coming up with fan theories).
(**) I’m a physician, not a physicist, so please forgive (and preferably correct) any glaring errors regarding force, momentum, velocity, etc. 🙂
TWS is BAMF, but I suspect his spine n shoulder rang like a bell when he caught the shield as it doesn’t look like Steve pulled that throw at all.
I’m actually really curious what would you say are Steve’s core characteristics? I’m honestly not sure what I think that they are because a lot of my thoughts on Steve are tied up with how he interacts with other people. But who is Steve? What would you are say are his major values? What are his flaws?
Bewared – a lot of this comes from YEARS and YEARS of comics.
First of all Cap is DETERMINED. He never gives up, he always stands up. It really
is Steve’s actual super power, his absolute refusal to ever call it quits.
He’s a good man. No
REALLY, he is. One time, Magneto tried
to erase his mind of all prejudice towards Mutants – only to find out that Cap
didn’t have ANY towards mutants or anybody else. Steve is dedicated to his morals
and ideals. He personified “Honor Before Reason” and because of this he’s
ALWAYS been seen as the moral center of the Marvel Comics Universe. (See “The Ballad of Captain America’s
Disapproving Face” by the Murder Ballads. “If you can’t tell the
Captain what you’re damn well up to, then don’t damn well get up to it at all!”)
As has been noted by MANY, he’s Neutral Good since he puts
“good” above “law”, and he defends American ideals more than
American laws. He’s “loyal only to the dream”!
He’s extremely team oriented – though he’s invariably the team
leader (more on that later) of any team he is part of, he treats them more like his family and it’s known to one all and all that he NEVER leaves a team member behind. He’ll put the mission first but he always comes back for those left behind. The rescue of Team Cap from the Raft was CLASSIC Cap behavior.
He’s always a gentleman, usually humble, invariably kind and
He is the undisputed, tactical genius of the Marvel
Universe. And the DC universe for that
matter. In the Avengers/JLA cross-over
event, Captain America was nominated by SUPERMAN to command the all of the
heroes of both universes. Using Martian
Manhunter’s telepathic mindlink , he organized and lead the ENTIRE combined
force, turning them into a well-honed, fighting machine – and he made it look easy. Thus demonstrating why Captain America is
still one of the greatest Team Leaders ever.
His faults come from many of his strengths, he’s EXTREMELY stubborn,
he never let’s ANYTHING go – long past when he should. He cannot compromise in any way, shape or form – not even when the fate of the world
hangs in the balance, and “honor before reason” is all too often “death before
If I may also add another reason Steve is so great is that he sees the world, the good and the bad.
He isn’t as naive as many people think he is.
So he sees what’s wrong with the world and rather then let the bad wear him down or turn him cynical he keeps standing back up. His persevence in the face of negative stuff is really admirable.
The more I think about the timeline for Bucky’s torture given Agent Carter canon, the more I want to cry. That flashback scene in CATWS got impossibly worse.
Presumably Bucky got taken after his fall by Russians- HYDRA or affiliated with them- having suffered the traumatic amputation of part of his arm. His survival alone would have made him a subject for medical experimentation, and when they realized who their captive was, his value as a prisoner would have skyrocketed. He was Zola’s only success.
At this point he was Bucky, coping with a second round of captivity and medical experimentation. Steve was gone. But still, they couldn’t contain him without cryostasis, an incredibly dangerous procedure they must have tested on him. They risked him dying in order to preserve him for Zola. And no, he wasn’t “naturally frozen” in the snow where he fell, because Bucky was conscious enough to remember being found bleeding. He was conscious when he was captured, and when they shoved him into that tube.
Zola came years later, back from American prison to oversee his project. Bucky woke to the operating theater, where he was conscious when a fucking bone saw cut through what was left of his left arm, and the metal one was attached (the series of surgeries required to reinforce his skeleton must have been a never-ending nightmare reel of physical torture). It was still Bucky, Sergeant Barnes, waking up at this point to his worst nightmare standing over him.
Then Agent Carter tells me that Zola had either Johann Fenhoff or his knowledge to fucking hypnotize Bucky into doing whatever they wanted from here on. Before electroshock became their go-to method, they distorted Bucky’s grasp on reality. Zola who had years in America to weasel information to use against Bucky when he had him at his mercy. He could have made him believe anything, forced him to unknowingly cooperate while he was still Bucky.
And even then, after enough trauma to drive anyone mad, Bucky still must have fought them. He must have broken through Fenhoff’s methods, enough that they weren’t viable in the long-term, that they had to experiment and invest in electroshock and risk (inflict?) brain damage on their prize in order to secure their captive and control him.
The process to get their asset was a testament to how strong Bucky Barnes is, how much of a hero at his core. It took years of calculated, brutal abuse, and still, they had to erase him to force him to comply.
Meanwhile I’m here crying about how IF ONLY Peggy or the Commandos had found him at this point in time, had they just known, they could have spared him everything. They’d have gotten back their Sergeant Barnes, minus part of his arm, still strong and able and whole, but no one even thought to look.
I’m not ok…
Excuse me. I’d like to be alone now. 😢
In the bank vault scene in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, when we first see Bucky, he’s being bombarded with fragments of memories of Steve and his own “death.” When I was watching it recently, I noticed that one of the things he doesn’t do much of at first is blink. When Pierce enters the vault, Bucky’s not even blinking at all, simply staring straight ahead, completely lost in his memories and confusion, and trying to piece things together. But if you look at the gif above, you’ll notice that right after Pierce backhands him across the face, Bucky’s staring off toward the right, unblinking, until he begins to say, “The man on the bridge…”
In the dim recesses of my minor in speech communication brain, I remembered some information about cognitive function and blinking, so I looked up what might be going on in this scene, and it’s really fascinating. Blinking (aside from its physical requirement of keeping the eye moist) is related to certain cognitive processes; most people punctuate their speech with blinking between phrases and at the ends of sentences. People also time blinking so as not to interfere with receiving new cognitive input (less blinking while they’re solving a problem, for instance, and then blinking more when they’re done).
A 1933 study showed that the rate of blinking was low during tasks requiring concentration and intense mental activity. However, “unfocused or rapidly changing internal states such as disorientation, emotional excitement, frustration, and anxiety seem to be associated with high rates of blinking.”
In the above gif, you can see that Bucky doesn’t blink at all while he’s more focused on the memories that are assaulting him, but then as his internal state starts to change and he wants to talk, he blinks repeatedly when he says, “The man on the bridge.” He keeps blinking in quick succession as he remembers Steve saying, “Bucky?” and continues, turning his gaze up to Pierce: “I knew him.” The blinking has slowed at that point.
Once Pierce lies and then starts in on his little carrot speech, Bucky goes back to blinking only when his eyes change focus or he moves his gaze. Sometimes it’s not even a full blink, just a small movement of his eyelids, like below.
An example of these processes the researchers mentioned was: “While searching one’s memory for a name, one tends not to blink; then, when the name is located, blinking occurs.” Bucky basically, throughout Pierce’s bloviating, is continuing to process his internal emotions and retrieve information, so he doesn’t blink much at all. The researchers believed blinking is inhibited when activities are not dependent upon visual input – and here, all Bucky really does is half listen to Pierce yammering, not entirely focused on him, only glancing at him occasionally. And even more interestingly in terms of this scene, the lower blinking rate extends to visual memory as well, not just receiving new input. All those thoughts and feelings roiling in his mind are Bucky’s primary focus, not Pierce’s empty rhetoric. Until…
Bucky says something about Steve, and his memories, again. Then he blinks multiple times in rapid succession.
Here you can see him blink slowly once, turn his attention to Pierce’s face, and then say, blinking rapidly, “But I knew him.” He’s accessed those visual memories, he knows he knows something, and he doesn’t care about the new input from Pierce, so the higher blink rate is indicative of his emotional turmoil every bit as much as that little grimace is.
“The rapid changes in visual input level resulting from the closing and opening of the lids may cause massive interference in visual processing areas.” I mean, all I can do here is make flaily hands while I sit in a bathtub filled with the crystalline tears I’ve cried for Bucky.
When Pierce gives up on the carrot and goes for the stick, Bucky goes back to not blinking much at all. Even when they shove him back in the chair, he doesn’t blink.
I don’t know if Sebastian Stan or the directors knew any of this, or if Sebastian did this blinking thing deliberately as part of his acting process, but damn. He just deserves all the awards for such a subtle, amazing performance here. This incredible fucking movie: 16 months later and we can still find stuff to talk about. It’s agonizing and heartbreaking and I don’t think I’ll ever be over this scene.
Wow that’s a super bisexual sky Steve and Sam.
and with that, welcome to my obnoxious TWS liveblog four years late edition.
SAM HAS REFLECTOR STRIPES ON HIS SHORTS like a nerd who runs in the dark a lot. Sam r u getting enough sleep.
Why is Steve dry on the deck? Like his suit looks dry even right after he climbs on board. The existence of this tech might be an interesting detail to put in a fic.
I kind of like how even in stealth mode Natasha’s action sequence is much smaller, neater and contained than Steve’s – feels like good characterisation for their respective styles.
Also, I never noticed Rumlow actually neutralising one of the pirates with the stun baton to the forehead. That’s a nice bit of foreshadowing.
Oh hey there is actually a brief flash of the through-the-wall equipment we see Bucky use later.
Batrock actually repeatedly forcing Steve back with kicks, including against the shield is pretty neat. I like how much FUN he’s having as a villain and kind of wonder if they could have done more with him.
Steve grabbing Natasha like so much luggage is still hilarious – but the brief moment after when Natasha is genuinely upset that he’s not back to the banter? I stan her p hard and she gets so much quiet space for characterisation in this.
The sequence of fury vs fake cops is amazing for so many reasons, and I’m earmarking it for a detailed rewatch at a later date.
The shots sunglasses mook fires through the bus are a nice little pre-ping for the causeway battle.
This is such a noisy entrance for the winter soldier too – like not just the explosion, but the fact that they don’t let him try the sniper shot first but the big apparently planned car chase. Makes the fan theory that the visible chaos was intentional seem real plausible.
Look at Sharon’s body language when she’s talking to Pierce! She’s doing her spy thing – she’s standing in a small, feminine non-threatening way that she doesn’t usually have – in fact we only see this body language from “Kate,” not from Sharon. And when she turns around after “Hello, neighbour” – after the men have both turned – she does look annoyed to me – but she also looks suspicious.
Sharon and Natasha catch on to this entire thing virtually at the same time, but they go about reacting to it in characteristically different ways.
Also by the way of Pierce: He is such a slimeball, it’s amazing. The way he uses “Nick” makes me twitch.
Also Sharon obviously lied to him – she forgot to mention in her official report just moments earlier that she was the last one who was alone with Fury before the EMTs got there – which also means she decided against passing on to SHIELD that Steve was in pursuit of the assailant, despite his request.
Fury that magnificent scheming asshole was already making three separate (Hill, Carter, Rogers) compartmentalised trusted strands of action right after getting rammed, shot at, blown up, crawling through the sewers to Steve’s flat AND getting actually shot three times.
Interesting detail from the elevator fight: Steve actually hits the emergency stop on the elevator himself. Also – did Steve know that elevator had an emergency brake if the cables were cut or was that meatball just gonna fall down in it?
The escape from the triskellion is so much “Steve, no! – Steve, YES!”. Also he grounded that quinjet without killing the
Look at Sharon already thinking about what she’s going to say once Sitwell is done that’ll have the most impact – and it’s interesting how she phrases it. conducting a manhunt for Captain America – when she almost certainly grew up thinking about him as Steve and possibly thinking about him as Rogers while he was under her observation.
And note that Alexander Pierce comes in to save Sitwell trying to answer this.
“I only act like I know everything, Rogers.” is an amazing line.
Obligatory terrible hacking sequence because nobody on the writer’s staff for TWS knew anything about computers.
I like that Steve is giving Nat the actual sighting – indicating that he’s seeing better than her and they know each other’s strength and weaknesses – I love how they work together.
That super conspicuous usb hub is amazing.
Steve noticing the secret door – by sight, by draft? Sensory thing to note as autistic Steve HC fertilizer.
Breakfast at Sam’s!
Also where the hell are they standing, at his first floor window?
*beating on table* CAUSE WAY CUDDLES, CAUSEWAY CUDDLES!
Natasha bleeding and trying to comfort Steve. Ouch.
“Excuse us” Steve you little shit.
Nat swearing on the Bible seems really weird to me, but I guess it’s standard in the US?
It’s weird that this movie itself is so unsure whether SHIELD is a US agency or international – it’s a problem in general in the MCU, but especially egregious when it’s within the same film as here.
“She’s nice” indeed. This was a good Sharon-centric rewatch of CATWS, but I feel like I need to look carefully at Nick & Nat in one, and probably there are some Sam-related things I somehow haven’t caught on to yet too. This time for sure I got some info that I didn’t have before, although I’m not sure where that will take me in terms of meta.
Maybe I should (much less joyfully) rewatch CACW too for a fuller picture of her.
Thanks for bearing with me! This blog is now back to its regular schedule of shitposting.
WHEDON HOW CAN YOU SAY HE HAS AN EGO DO YOU NOT SEE THIS SHIT. DO YOU NOT SEE HIM LOOKING PHYSICALLY UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE OF THE CAMERA DO YOU NOT SEE THE REST OF THE COMMANDOS NOT GIVING TWO SHITS ABOUT THE CAMERA BECAUSE THEY HAVE BIGGER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AND STEVE IS THERE THINKING “SHIT SHIT DON’T LOOK AT ME DON’T TRACK ME I DON’T WANT TO BE THE ARMY’S DANCING MONKEY I WANT TO DO SOME GOOD, QUIT FOLLOWING ME”
“A MATCH OF EGOS” WITH TONY STARK WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
#I’m fairly sure Steve was ashamed of his time with the USO#not in the sense that he was doing anything wrong#but that he could have been doing so much more#So much happened while he was on tour#the Allies took Sicily in the biggest amphibious operation to date#he knows now what he can do#how he can help#and instead he was dancing in tights#I think it eats at him#could he have made a difference?#could he have saved lives?#and every time he sees a camera he’s reminded of being on stage#of making those films#of being safe when he should have been out there fighting (via boopboopbi)
Headcanon where Bucky used to “accidentally” damage newsreel cameras to make Steve feel better.